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		<title>By: FREEDOM</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-3674</link>
		<dc:creator>FREEDOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL REPORTING YOU DO.YOU ARE FAIR AND BALANCED.FOX NEWS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE.BOTH SIDES MEAN ALOT US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL REPORTING YOU DO.YOU ARE FAIR AND BALANCED.FOX NEWS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE.BOTH SIDES MEAN ALOT US.</p>
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		<title>By: Just back from Mosul</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-2379</link>
		<dc:creator>Just back from Mosul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just returned with my unit from Iraq last month. Nothing has changed in regards to the electrical problems with KBR in Iraq. 

I lost count of the times I received mild to moderate electric shocks while on FOB Diamondback and FOB Marez. I witnessed improper grounding of CHUs and  of work facilities, untrained or otherwise unqualified electricians working on projects, and a scam run by KBR fire safety and KBR electrical contractors.

I mean KBR did not even have the sense to ground our CHUs properly and the static buildup was so bad that I got St. Elmo&#039;s fire in my CHU.

Any reporter from CNN wishing to contact my may do so through my supplied e-mail address. This matter needs to be addressed again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just returned with my unit from Iraq last month. Nothing has changed in regards to the electrical problems with KBR in Iraq. </p>
<p>I lost count of the times I received mild to moderate electric shocks while on FOB Diamondback and FOB Marez. I witnessed improper grounding of CHUs and  of work facilities, untrained or otherwise unqualified electricians working on projects, and a scam run by KBR fire safety and KBR electrical contractors.</p>
<p>I mean KBR did not even have the sense to ground our CHUs properly and the static buildup was so bad that I got St. Elmo&#039;s fire in my CHU.</p>
<p>Any reporter from CNN wishing to contact my may do so through my supplied e-mail address. This matter needs to be addressed again.</p>
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		<title>By: Airman</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>Airman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Iraq for four months and was responsible for dealing with contracting issues regarding latrine trailers.  I had SEVERAL calls for problems with these trailers and personnel being shocked in their living trailers.  Our own &quot;Airmen&quot; had to fix these problems in some cases, because the contractor would take several days to fix the trailer or refused to fix the trailer at all.  

It wasn&#039;t limited to shocking incidents... broken doors, water heaters that didn&#039;t work, wires that melted because they couldn&#039;t take the load, holes in the floor that would fit your leg.  The main problem we faced was the &quot;Iraqi First&quot; program mandated we had to purchase these facilities/trailers from companies with offices in Iraq.  I tried to procure trailers from a company that provided latrines to the civilians on our base (far superior to the latrines we used), however, the company did not have offices in Iraq.  Request denied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Iraq for four months and was responsible for dealing with contracting issues regarding latrine trailers.  I had SEVERAL calls for problems with these trailers and personnel being shocked in their living trailers.  Our own &#034;Airmen&#034; had to fix these problems in some cases, because the contractor would take several days to fix the trailer or refused to fix the trailer at all.  </p>
<p>It wasn&#039;t limited to shocking incidents... broken doors, water heaters that didn&#039;t work, wires that melted because they couldn&#039;t take the load, holes in the floor that would fit your leg.  The main problem we faced was the &#034;Iraqi First&#034; program mandated we had to purchase these facilities/trailers from companies with offices in Iraq.  I tried to procure trailers from a company that provided latrines to the civilians on our base (far superior to the latrines we used), however, the company did not have offices in Iraq.  Request denied.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1845</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.
I bid on a contract to provide electrical workers at Camp Ramadi back last Summer.
My price was based on furnishing licensed American electricians, paying them what they would earn here in Colorado PLUS a premium for working outside the Green Zone in Iraq.  

I lost to an Iraqi company that bid less than $9 per hour.  

What kind of electrical work are they gonna get for $9 per hour ? 
The USMC didn&#039;t even require that the electricians speak English. 
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I bid on a contract to provide electrical workers at Camp Ramadi back last Summer.<br />
My price was based on furnishing licensed American electricians, paying them what they would earn here in Colorado PLUS a premium for working outside the Green Zone in Iraq.  </p>
<p>I lost to an Iraqi company that bid less than $9 per hour.  </p>
<p>What kind of electrical work are they gonna get for $9 per hour ?<br />
The USMC didn&#039;t even require that the electricians speak English.<br />
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		<title>By: Grace  A  Sigunga</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1823</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace  A  Sigunga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@  Willie  B, I  have  a  distinct  feeling  you  and  I  experienced  the  same  incident  at  Mahmudiyah, when  the  chicken  coop  burned  down  due  to  faulty  wiring. We  had  not  even  been  in  Iraq  for  a  month  when  that  happened. It  never  occured  to  me  then  until  after  the  fire  about  the  how  serious  the  faulty  wiring  was,an  obvious  danger  to  everyone  on  the  fob. KBR  was  rushing  to  move  ppl  into  this  wooden  building  from  tents, and  I  remembered  them  cutting  shortcuts  that  were  very  obvious  even  to  the  untrained  electrician(like  me). Soldiers were  overworked  that  the  last  thing  we  cared  about  was  fixing  our  own  electricity,something  that  Army  Cpt  posted  on  here. I  lost  everything  I  had  except  my  weapon  and  gear  only  because  I  was  out  on  a  mission  just  to  return  and  find  all  my  possesions  going  up  in  flames. There  was  a  similar  fire  in  the  same  Triangle  at  Yusufiyah. It&#039;s  a  wonder  no  one  was  killed  in  these  fires  or   electrocuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@  Willie  B, I  have  a  distinct  feeling  you  and  I  experienced  the  same  incident  at  Mahmudiyah, when  the  chicken  coop  burned  down  due  to  faulty  wiring. We  had  not  even  been  in  Iraq  for  a  month  when  that  happened. It  never  occured  to  me  then  until  after  the  fire  about  the  how  serious  the  faulty  wiring  was,an  obvious  danger  to  everyone  on  the  fob. KBR  was  rushing  to  move  ppl  into  this  wooden  building  from  tents, and  I  remembered  them  cutting  shortcuts  that  were  very  obvious  even  to  the  untrained  electrician(like  me). Soldiers were  overworked  that  the  last  thing  we  cared  about  was  fixing  our  own  electricity,something  that  Army  Cpt  posted  on  here. I  lost  everything  I  had  except  my  weapon  and  gear  only  because  I  was  out  on  a  mission  just  to  return  and  find  all  my  possesions  going  up  in  flames. There  was  a  similar  fire  in  the  same  Triangle  at  Yusufiyah. It&#039;s  a  wonder  no  one  was  killed  in  these  fires  or   electrocuted.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1821</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering what Greg said-- If it&#039;s true, it is positively vile that speaking up for truth and safety has the result of being a &quot;career killer&quot;.  Let the whistleblowers be heard and protected.  We must have the facts, whatever they may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering what Greg said&#8211; If it&#039;s true, it is positively vile that speaking up for truth and safety has the result of being a &#034;career killer&#034;.  Let the whistleblowers be heard and protected.  We must have the facts, whatever they may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Baghdad</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in Baghdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of you in the US,, Aparently you have grown bored with the political circus at home and are now trying to place blame on everyone else (As usual). How about foccussing on fixing America? Quit Crying &quot;Whoa is Me&quot; and step up and do something about our own country, while those of us who are over here SUPPORTING the military do our jobs. 

To the American Media~ thank god you are here to point out the negative and forget the possitive. No matter what is going on in the world~ you are always reliable to blow smoke at the American public in order to sell your stories. How many sub-standard building projects are there in the US? How many of our own people are living in poverty? Do you care? I highly doubt it, becasue it just doesnt catch the attention level our sorry excuse for media in America is looking for. 

Yes, there are Sub-standards acts over here, just like everywhere else. I am sure if you took a day and walked through CNN world headquarted in Atlanta, that anyone who can write and e-mail could do a story on the &quot;Hazardous Conditions&quot; that our &quot;Beloved Press&quot; have to endure while smearing everyone else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you in the US,, Aparently you have grown bored with the political circus at home and are now trying to place blame on everyone else (As usual). How about foccussing on fixing America? Quit Crying &#034;Whoa is Me&#034; and step up and do something about our own country, while those of us who are over here SUPPORTING the military do our jobs. </p>
<p>To the American Media~ thank god you are here to point out the negative and forget the possitive. No matter what is going on in the world~ you are always reliable to blow smoke at the American public in order to sell your stories. How many sub-standard building projects are there in the US? How many of our own people are living in poverty? Do you care? I highly doubt it, becasue it just doesnt catch the attention level our sorry excuse for media in America is looking for. </p>
<p>Yes, there are Sub-standards acts over here, just like everywhere else. I am sure if you took a day and walked through CNN world headquarted in Atlanta, that anyone who can write and e-mail could do a story on the &#034;Hazardous Conditions&#034; that our &#034;Beloved Press&#034; have to endure while smearing everyone else</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1817</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the military using the local voltages or trying to convert them down to our standard 110/120VAC?  I know in my wifes native Thailand the ey use the 220VAC and just outside the window at their house is a bunch of power wires just waiting for one of the kids to try to play with.  I thought whew this would be a good picture for the local power company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the military using the local voltages or trying to convert them down to our standard 110/120VAC?  I know in my wifes native Thailand the ey use the 220VAC and just outside the window at their house is a bunch of power wires just waiting for one of the kids to try to play with.  I thought whew this would be a good picture for the local power company.</p>
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		<title>By: Army CPT</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Army CPT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Get Real&quot;
Just a note, I&#039;m not talking bases, I&#039;m talking Iraqi homes and buildings that have been cleared and used as temporary outposts by US Soldiers.  The Soldiers will then &quot;improve&quot; those structures to try to be more comfortable and they normally do not think of the consequences these &quot;upgrades&quot; can have.  Unacceptable wiring is just that, unacceptable, but as a Leader of Soldiers, it is hard to manage every aspect of life.  Typically my time is spent checking combat equipment, security, leading patrols, and planning missions so we can can come home one day.
As for military bases in the states, no macho stuff here, what needs to be fixed should be fixed.  Now days contractors own everything, from the barracks, to the motor pools, so all we really have control of as a military are our vehicles and training.  Bring anything else up to your congressman because we contract out everything else so we can inflate our military numbers and focus on more combat Soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#034;Get Real&#034;<br />
Just a note, I&#039;m not talking bases, I&#039;m talking Iraqi homes and buildings that have been cleared and used as temporary outposts by US Soldiers.  The Soldiers will then &#034;improve&#034; those structures to try to be more comfortable and they normally do not think of the consequences these &#034;upgrades&#034; can have.  Unacceptable wiring is just that, unacceptable, but as a Leader of Soldiers, it is hard to manage every aspect of life.  Typically my time is spent checking combat equipment, security, leading patrols, and planning missions so we can can come home one day.<br />
As for military bases in the states, no macho stuff here, what needs to be fixed should be fixed.  Now days contractors own everything, from the barracks, to the motor pools, so all we really have control of as a military are our vehicles and training.  Bring anything else up to your congressman because we contract out everything else so we can inflate our military numbers and focus on more combat Soldiers.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/24/shocked-but-silent/#comment-1815</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former service member my experience with the question of speaking up is that doing so would be a guaranteed &quot;career-killer&quot;. Once you do something like this there is no protection for you, no matter what the military PR people say, and the word gets out about you. It affects your promotions, your relationships with your supervisors and coworkers, and your ability to get stationed elsewhere as your reputation as a &quot;troublemaker&quot; spreads. The military is not like a regular job that you can leave if it gets difficult so once all of this starts happening you can&#039;t leave and have to live with the consequences of what you brought on yourself. It&#039;s not realistic to expect most people to do this. I wish this were not so but there it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former service member my experience with the question of speaking up is that doing so would be a guaranteed &#034;career-killer&#034;. Once you do something like this there is no protection for you, no matter what the military PR people say, and the word gets out about you. It affects your promotions, your relationships with your supervisors and coworkers, and your ability to get stationed elsewhere as your reputation as a &#034;troublemaker&#034; spreads. The military is not like a regular job that you can leave if it gets difficult so once all of this starts happening you can&#039;t leave and have to live with the consequences of what you brought on yourself. It&#039;s not realistic to expect most people to do this. I wish this were not so but there it is.</p>
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