Comments on: Former Marine facing foreclosure, but do you really want to bail him out? http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/ The story behind the story Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:55:38 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: cooper http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2997 cooper Sun, 17 May 2009 06:47:23 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2997 I agree that the borrower should bear a huge part of the blame, however the real estate agencies/brokers should bear a huge part also, because oftentimes the real estate agencies/brokers know the borrower cannot afford the mortgage but "juice" the paperwork so that it appeal to the banks--why? Because the real estate agency/brokers recieve a nice COMMISSION for doing this. Here's the capper THE BORROWER GOES INTO FORECLOSURE,THE BANK GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE REAL ESTATE AGENCY/BROKER THAT "JUICED" THE PAPERWORK IN THE FIRST PLACE...NOTHING. I agree that the borrower should bear a huge part of the blame, however the real estate agencies/brokers should bear a huge part also, because oftentimes the real estate agencies/brokers know the borrower cannot afford the mortgage but "juice" the paperwork so that it appeal to the banks–why? Because the real estate agency/brokers recieve a nice COMMISSION for doing this. Here's the capper THE BORROWER GOES INTO FORECLOSURE,THE BANK GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE REAL ESTATE AGENCY/BROKER THAT "JUICED" THE PAPERWORK IN THE FIRST PLACE...NOTHING.

]]> By: Kristine http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2939 Kristine Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:04:46 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2939 L. Russell, you feel that you should only be paying for what your house is worth right now? You invested in a house at X price - your choice. Adjustable rate mortgage? Also your choice. If the home goes down in value, someone else should suffer the consequences? When the house goes up in value, shouldn't that same someone also reap the benefit? What you should be doing is RENTING. If you don't want any risk, you shouldn't get any potential reward, either. I don't imagine you were thinking that when the value went up these last several years that your profit should go to someone else... L. Russell, you feel that you should only be paying for what your house is worth right now? You invested in a house at X price – your choice. Adjustable rate mortgage? Also your choice. If the home goes down in value, someone else should suffer the consequences? When the house goes up in value, shouldn't that same someone also reap the benefit?

What you should be doing is RENTING. If you don't want any risk, you shouldn't get any potential reward, either.

I don't imagine you were thinking that when the value went up these last several years that your profit should go to someone else...

]]> By: L. Russell http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2867 L. Russell Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:58:54 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2867 I don't care how fast talking the person was who did the paper work for Jeff. When he went over the bottom line stating how much the monthly mortgage payment would be (hello !) he or his wife saw the amount and knew that could not afford it. Didn't you say school teacher? Living a lie just caught up with them. I feel bad but, if I did something like that I am certain that would not get a bail out. President Obama made it clear about helping people like Jeff who were irresponsible. I am thankful to him for serving our country but, people cannot keep using that as a get out of jail free card. I don't care how fast talking the person was who did the paper work for Jeff. When he went over the bottom line stating how much the monthly mortgage payment would be (hello !) he or his wife saw the amount and knew that could not afford it.

Didn't you say school teacher? Living a lie just caught up with them.

I feel bad but, if I did something like that I am certain that would not get a bail out.

President Obama made it clear about helping people like Jeff who were irresponsible.

I am thankful to him for serving our country but, people cannot keep using that as a get out of jail free card.

]]> By: L. Russell http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2866 L. Russell Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:44:28 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2866 I am all for waiting to see what President Obama's plan on foreclosures is going to do but, I am concerned that we are starting at the wrong place. Why start with new buyers when we already have home owners in trouble who have done the right thing but, got caught in adjustable mortgages. If you say first time buyers, that opens it up for people to go out and purchase and now fair well that this is not the time to purchase. They should wait until the economy is more stable. I am not in trouble of foreclosure although I do know some people who have lost their jobs and it my happen to them. However, I am one that is now paying more for a morgage then my home is worth at this point. I feel that everyone, including myself should pay for the amount our is worth at this time. Giving people behind in their mortgage who had a good paying record three months free of mortage tacking it at the end would really help a lot of people. (Responsible people) I am all for waiting to see what President Obama's plan on foreclosures is going to do but, I am concerned that we are starting at the wrong place. Why start with new buyers when we already have home owners in trouble who have done the right thing but, got caught in adjustable mortgages. If you say first time buyers, that opens it up for people to go out and purchase and now fair well that this is not the time to purchase. They should wait until the economy is more stable.

I am not in trouble of foreclosure although I do know some people who have lost their jobs and it my happen to them. However, I am one that is now paying more for a morgage then my home is worth at this point.

I feel that everyone, including myself should pay for the amount our is worth at this time.

Giving people behind in their mortgage who had a good paying record three months free of mortage tacking it at the end would really help a lot of people. (Responsible people)

]]> By: PT http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2827 PT Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:39:41 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2827 Lying on the papers and claiming "I didn't know what I was signing" sounds a lot like "Gee I didn't know that was illegal" as a defense. It's really simple....read it before you sign it and if someone rushes you through it, all the more reason to read it twice! I'd like to know if this former marine was on active duty when he bought the house; if he was active, how much was he getting in his housing stipend. If you live on base, the military pays the stipend to the management company overseeing base housing, but if you live off base, the stipend is paid to the soldier to use as he or she sees fit. Any way you slice it, someone else was going to pay for this man's housing. Lying on the papers and claiming "I didn't know what I was signing" sounds a lot like "Gee I didn't know that was illegal" as a defense. It's really simple....read it before you sign it and if someone rushes you through it, all the more reason to read it twice! I'd like to know if this former marine was on active duty when he bought the house; if he was active, how much was he getting in his housing stipend. If you live on base, the military pays the stipend to the management company overseeing base housing, but if you live off base, the stipend is paid to the soldier to use as he or she sees fit. Any way you slice it, someone else was going to pay for this man's housing.

]]> By: Dallas Texas http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2773 Dallas Texas Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:50:32 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2773 I am a single teacher and recently purchased my first house. As far as I am concerned, this man is a liar. He claims that he was overwhelmed by all of the paperwork coming at him. Bottom line, though, is that he KNEW how much money he was borrowing. The fact that his wife is also a teacher tells me that at least one person in their family has a brain. Where was she when all of these papers were being signed? Why wasn't she asking important questions like "How much will our monthly payment be?" And "How in the heck are we going to afford that?!" These people have sat down and signed home loan paperwork at least twice (once for the initial purchase and once for the refinance). I understand that people encounter hard times, but we are responsible for our own actions. They lived in this house for FOUR years without making a single payment. And not only that, but the $350,000 that they borrowed was supposedly spent on credit card debt that incurred, AND they supposedly don't know where the rest of it went. And even though they had $350,000 of the bank's money, then still did not make one single payment. They should've been out in the cold about 3 1/2 years ago. I feel sorry for the kids, but that's where my sympathy stops. I cannot fathom how they could've burned through that kind of money, nor how they could have made less than $10,000 in a year (watch the video interview). Teachers are underpaid, but we definitely make more than $10,000 a year. Heck, I almost made that much working part-time in high school. Jeff Gray needs to man up and get a job or two and provide for his family. I'm surprised his wife hasn't left him. And shame on both of them for having the nerve to beg the public for help when they haven't even ATTEMPTED to pay a single payment of their mortgage. What a joke! I am a single teacher and recently purchased my first house. As far as I am concerned, this man is a liar. He claims that he was overwhelmed by all of the paperwork coming at him. Bottom line, though, is that he KNEW how much money he was borrowing. The fact that his wife is also a teacher tells me that at least one person in their family has a brain. Where was she when all of these papers were being signed? Why wasn't she asking important questions like "How much will our monthly payment be?" And "How in the heck are we going to afford that?!" These people have sat down and signed home loan paperwork at least twice (once for the initial purchase and once for the refinance). I understand that people encounter hard times, but we are responsible for our own actions. They lived in this house for FOUR years without making a single payment. And not only that, but the $350,000 that they borrowed was supposedly spent on credit card debt that incurred, AND they supposedly don't know where the rest of it went. And even though they had $350,000 of the bank's money, then still did not make one single payment. They should've been out in the cold about 3 1/2 years ago. I feel sorry for the kids, but that's where my sympathy stops. I cannot fathom how they could've burned through that kind of money, nor how they could have made less than $10,000 in a year (watch the video interview). Teachers are underpaid, but we definitely make more than $10,000 a year. Heck, I almost made that much working part-time in high school. Jeff Gray needs to man up and get a job or two and provide for his family. I'm surprised his wife hasn't left him. And shame on both of them for having the nerve to beg the public for help when they haven't even ATTEMPTED to pay a single payment of their mortgage. What a joke!

]]> By: Kristine http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2771 Kristine Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:26:36 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2771 Since this fellow's mortgage under the original loan more than likely exceeded his income stated on his taxes for 2005, I suspect the IRS would be interested in seeing his loan paperwork detail about his income since he surely filed "stated income". Wonder what taxes he owes, too? I'm supposed to bail out someone who got $150,000 cash out of a $200,000 home and has lived in it FREE for four years? He needs to leave. I wouldn't blink if you told me he was also being prosecuted for fraud. The bank is paying for its responsibility in this debacle by taking the $150,000 loss, or at least it should be. Since this fellow's mortgage under the original loan more than likely exceeded his income stated on his taxes for 2005, I suspect the IRS would be interested in seeing his loan paperwork detail about his income since he surely filed "stated income". Wonder what taxes he owes, too?

I'm supposed to bail out someone who got $150,000 cash out of a $200,000 home and has lived in it FREE for four years? He needs to leave. I wouldn't blink if you told me he was also being prosecuted for fraud.

The bank is paying for its responsibility in this debacle by taking the $150,000 loss, or at least it should be.

]]> By: Glen Wooldridge http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2769 Glen Wooldridge Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:25:46 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2769 If this person gets help, the system has failed.Why should the tax papers bail out this family that has lived free for four years. We all need to l be responsible. Again, do not give this family a free ride, or we all should get a free ride. If this person gets help, the system has failed.Why should the tax papers bail out this family that has lived free for four years. We all need to l be responsible. Again, do not give this family a free ride, or we all should get a free ride.

]]> By: KC http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/18/former-marine-facing-foreclosure-but-do-you-really-want-to-bail-him-out/#comment-2768 KC Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:24:06 +0000 http://siu.blogs.cnn.com/?p=620#comment-2768 This guy is poster child for the type of irresponsble behavior that led to the mortgage meltdown and subsequent financial markets crisis. He never should have received the mortgage because he LIED on his paperwork. I just watched the report on CNN, and he initialed and signed the paperwork certifying his family's income. He deserves to live on the street. Liar. This guy is poster child for the type of irresponsble behavior that led to the mortgage meltdown and subsequent financial markets crisis. He never should have received the mortgage because he LIED on his paperwork. I just watched the report on CNN, and he initialed and signed the paperwork certifying his family's income. He deserves to live on the street. Liar.

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